May 25, 2007

"I think some of these answers need improvement"

As an atheist, you will occasionally meet a non-atheist who wishes to argue against your belief system. If you are interested in discussing the matter, you may want to prepare yourself by learning these simple responses to common anti-atheist arguments.

The Bible says that atheism is wrong.

"All science we have on biblical events says that the bible is wrong"

If you believe in God and are wrong, then it's no big deal, but if you don't believe in God and are wrong, you'll be punished eternally, so it's not a good idea to be an atheist.

"I believe in one life and to waste that on waiting for another one thats not coming, truelly would be a waste of it. I know your wrong, its you that are uncertain. And if God truelly existed, do you think a supreme being would be fooled if I pretended to believe in him, to escape this all-loving, all-knowing gods eternal Hell?"

Deep down you really believe in God.

"Deep down I know he is imaginary"

You're only saying you're an atheist to rebel against authority.

"Than you are a rebel too since you dont believe in Buddha, Allah, Odin, Zevs or any other of the thousands of Gods that has surrounded human existents trough out history of mankind"

You probably are an atheist because you had a bad experience as a child.

"Why would that make me an atheist, if that where the case, than every man, woman and child in the bible should of been atheists too, cause none of them lived a easy life"

There are no atheists in foxholes.

"First of all, you base this arguement on what really? second of all, being in foxholes really isn't something to brag about.

If you don't believe in God, you'll go to Hell!

"If I dont believe in God there is no hell"

Why are you mad at God?

"Im not mad at God, you cant be mad at something that doesn't exist"

Atheists are Satanic.

"To be Satanic, you have to believe in God, and atheists do not believe in God."

Without God there is no morality.

"So Buddhists should than be the most violent religion of them all. Yet, they are the most peaceful and don't believe in a God. I dont believe in a God, yet I dont kill you for claiming that I am immoral. That is clearly a moral choice of me"

God is perfect, and He couldn't be perfect if He didn't exist, which proves that He exists.

"That is just words and words cant prove anything. I could say that you are a monkey, but that would not prove that you are a monkey"

People who follow Jesus are good, so you should follow Jesus.

"People who do good things are good, people who follow Jesus, follow Jesus.

Jesus was either a liar, a crazy person, or the son of God. He spoke against liars, and his behavior wasn't crazy, so the only remaining possibility is that he was the son of God.

"Jesus was a liar, he told people he was the son of a all-loving, all-knowing God, he made people believe he could walk on water, he fooled people in to believing he had healing powers. He was crazy, he practically had a deathwish. He didn't try to avoid being killed, he welcomed it. He actually believed that his death meant that all since before and after would be forgiven. So if someone is raped, the rapist just has to ask Jesus for forgiveness. If you believe that Jesus was the son of God you are both crazy/delusional and a liar to your self and others"

There were eye witnesses that Jesus worked miracles.

"People seeing something really does not prove anything. If I say I saw a UFO yesterday, you would have difficulty believing it. But if you read in a book written over hundreds of years approximately over three thousand years ago, you would believe a guy just walked on water for no obvious reason at all"

Most people who know about Jesus believe in Him.

"Well, thats a given. If you want to know somebody, you kind of have to believe they exist. That doesn't prove that Jesus existed or that he still does in some distant place called heaven"

I know from personal experience that God exists.

"So what makes you so special, that God has taken special interest in revealing him self to you in particular?"

God wants you to believe in him without rational proof.

"I was about to say that, but you beat me to it"

You say you don't believe that God exists, but the word "God" is meaningless if there is no such thing, so you are admitting that God exists even as you deny his existence.

"So what your saying is that all Gods ever invented by mankind are real, cause we have found a place for them in our language? Yet you believe in just one God, when the word God just as easily can be put into context of many Gods. Does that mean that many Gods exist?"

Hitler was an atheist.

"Hitler was a christian and I quote Hitler saying "I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work. [Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]"

Einstein believed in God. Do you think you're smarter than Einstein?

"I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil. [Albert Einstein, as quoted in a memoir by Life editory William Miller in Life, May 2, 1955]"

The founding fathers intended the United States to be a Christian nation. Atheists aren't welcome.

"It is true that many early American leaders were "orthodox" Christians, as the term might be defined by their era, but many others and possibly more were not only not orthodox according to the definition of their era, but not even according to the definitions of our own time. If they weren't themselves "orthodox" Christians, how could they have intended America to be a "Christian" nation?" - Austin Cline

The universe is so complex that someone must have designed it.

"I don't know -- that sentence was fairly complex but there was obviously not much thought behind it."

Atheists believe in evolution, but if we teach our children evolution in public school they will believe that they are no better than animals and will grow up immoral.

"I bet you a thousands bucks that you have sinned one or more times just this week, probably you have sinned more than once just today. How can this be? You ask for forgiveness from Jesus, but frankly, thats the only difference between me and you when it comes to morale. Evolution doesn't teach us to be animals, it teaches us that we have evolved from that"

Evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics.

"No, but God does."

Well, evolution's only a theory.

"Your beliefs are just imaginary, evolution is a good attempt to explain the origin of life, contrary to the story in the bible which makes no sense at all. The theory of evolution is also considered a fact by most scientists."

How can you not believe in Jesus Christ when the evidence is overwhelming?

"There is not one shred of evidence that proves what Jesus did in his life or what happened after he died/ascended"

There's proof that God exists, like the Bible and miracles.

"If your twenty-year-old son still believes in Santa Claus because he read a book about Santa visiting and presents magically appeared on Christmas morning when he was a child, would you praise him for having faith in the face of overwhelming evidence or call him an idiot?"

My parents raised me to believe in God. Are you calling my parents liars?

"Can we talk about the Tooth Fairy for a minute?"

There are so many wonderful things in the world, how can you say there is no God?

"There are so many horrific things in the world, how can you say there is a God behind it all?"

There is so much beauty in the world that only God could have created it.

"Your lack of real explanations for the creation of this world does not prove that a God exists. It only proves that you as well as I and everyone else, do not know how the world came to be."

If there is no Heaven, then where do you go when you die?

"Here is an interesting thought, when you die, you die. If you think about that long enough, you will probably realize how precious this life really is"

You can't prove God doesn't exist.

"Simply because you cant prove that he does"

You don't know everything.

"I don't claim to know everything either, im not a God and I dont believe in Gods"

You can't see air, but you believe in it.

"I can breath it and feel it on my skin, so I know its there"

You can't see love, but you believe in it.

"And I agree that god, like love, is just a concept."

God made His image appear in this tortilla!

(Eats tortilla)

You call yourself an atheist but you have faith. Everyone has faith in something.

"I don't have faiths in gods, and that is what this discussion is all about"

The answers I post are not intended to be anything but humorous responses to tired arguments we've all heard too many times. I appreciate your putting together more serious responses, but I disagree with a few of them. Most significantly:

All science we have on biblical events says that the bible is wrong

That is just too broad a statement. For example, there is evidence that at least some Biblical individuals existed.

If I dont believe in God there is no hell

No believing in God proves nothing about hell other than, perhaps, that you don't believe in hell.

To be Satanic, you have to believe in God, and atheists do not believe in God.

Actually, members of the Church of Satan generally don't believe in God.

So Buddhists should than be the most violent religion of them all. Yet, they are the most peaceful and don't believe in a God. I dont believe in a God, yet I dont kill you for claiming that I am immoral. That is clearly a moral choice of me

Someone without morality isn't necessarily violent. Also, one could argue that feeling of morality come from God, whether or not you agree that God exists (not that this is a very good argument).

That is just words and words cant prove anything. I could say that you are a monkey, but that would not prove that you are a monkey

You need a better refutation that this. We use words to prove things all the time.

Jesus was a liar, he told people he was the son of a all-loving, all-knowing God, he made people believe he could walk on water, he fooled people in to believing he had healing powers. He was crazy, he practically had a deathwish. He didn't try to avoid being killed, he welcomed it. He actually believed that his death meant that all since before and after would be forgiven. So if someone is raped, the rapist just has to ask Jesus for forgiveness. If you believe that Jesus was the son of God you are both crazy/delusional and a liar to your self and others

Jesus could have been incorrect or misrepresented rather than a liar or crazy. And I would never say that believing that Jesus is divine is a sign of insanity or untruth – that's just too harsh and not factually correct.

So what makes you so special, that God has taken special interest in revealing him self to you in particular?

This is just a weak argument – nothing more than a personal attack on the speaker, really.

There is not one shred of evidence that proves what Jesus did in his life or what happened after he died/ascended

Actually, there's plenty of evidence. The question is whether it's good/conclusive evidence.

Simply because you cant prove that he does

That's a non sequitor (which I hope I spelled correctly). Not being able to prove something exists does not imply not being able to prove it doesn't exist. I can't prove that there's an integer between 3 and 4, but I can prove that there isn't.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

Like the site.
One thing I notice al ot of atheists do is try to argue with Christians on their own turf, well if Jesus did this or that then he.... and the argument goes on forever. It is so simple when you point out the fact that not one single event, not one, in the Bible, is corroborated anywhere by contemporary second sources, particularly the life of Jesus and his so called miracles etc. I defy any Christian to find corroboration for me anywhere that Jesus of Nazareth even existed, never mind who he was. The argument ends there. All you are left with is a very convoluted and confusing myth.